Writing & Rhetoric Book 2: Narrative 1 Student Edition

Writing & Rhetoric Book 2: Narrative 1 Student Edition

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Category Description for Writing & Rhetoric Book 2: Narrative I:

Includes 10 lessons utilizing fairy tales, myths, and parables. Skills covered include main idea, dialogue, description, and conflict. Both books are about 140 pgs.


Category Description for Writing & Rhetoric:

What! Another writing program? It's easy to imagine such a question popping up since we do have a number of excellent writing programs already available. This one is a worthy addition. First of all, it follows the classical model for teaching writing (and rhetoric) skills. What exactly does that mean? It means a program that is, in essence, a step-by-step apprenticeship in the art of writing and rhetoric. It's a program that believes that imitation is the foundation for learning writing and at the same time provides an easy to use framework for starting with models of good writing, building a "conversation in the head" (in other words, content through discussion and writing exercises), and for following the persuasive writing system developed by the ancient Romans. This system - the progymnasmata (progym, for short) - takes the student from simple retelling skills through the more and more complex skills of reporting, narrating, praising, comparison, persuasion, and defense. Modern writing borrows heavily from these skills, but the underlying methodology is distinctly different. Modern writing courses emphasize mastering the writing process and gaining experience with the different forms of writing. Accordingly, they often start with a blank sheet of paper and a brainstorming session. The progym, on the other hand, starts with well-known and excellent writing models (also known as classic literature).

Secondly, this program is user-friendly with virtually no teacher prep needed and the possibility of a minimum of teacher-student interaction (although interaction is always a plus). The publisher is the same one who has given us Latin for Children and Latin Alive! They know how to do user-friendly (and appealing). Even if you had no inkling of the meaning of a classical writing program, this would be an excellent choice. The Student Books provide instruction and examples with plenty of space to write. The Teacher Books have identical pages to the student books but add grey boxes which provide additional info, writing samples, answers and talking points. The two books are designed to be used together, and I think it would be unwise and difficult to try to use one without the other.

The lessons follow a pattern. The teacher reads through the text followed by a subsequent reading by the student (in upper levels, the student reads through the text examples). Narration (Tell It Back), discussion (Talk About It), and comprehension (Go Deeper) are all part of this initial look at the source material. Then starts the writing exercises (Write & Discuss). To give you an example of these, from one lesson in Book 2, copywork, dictation, sentence play, copiousness (using synonyms), and amplification (rewriting). Later in the lesson there is a time for reading/presenting the lesson's written work and separate Speak It exercises. It's suggested that this writing series would alternate with a grammar program (although no recommendations are made).

Each book is a semester's worth of writing instruction, with a total of twelve books planned. In a perfect world, a student would start in 3rd grade and complete the series in 8th grade. If your world isn't quite perfect, this series could be started anytime up to 5th or even 6th grade (in my opinion). Students beginning this program should know how to identify and create a complete sentence. It is possible to enter the program at upper levels but requires careful evaluation of the student's writing experience and the scope of the level. Some familiarity with the Progym series would also be helpful. You may wonder how this series interfaces with Common Core. The publishers note that their program "covers a host of these standards." But they further note that "while these goals are worthwhile, the Progym derive their strength from the incremental and thorough development of each form of writing. The Writing & Rhetoric series does not skip from form to form and leave the others behind, but rather builds a solid foundation of mastery by blending the forms."

Optional audio CDs are also available for each volume, which feature Dr. Christopher Perrin, his wife, Christine Perrin and/or others, reading the fables, myths, historical narratives and other source material used in the books aloud, to either add an auditory dynamic to your lesson or help auditory learners enhance their understanding of the material. Packages are available for most levels. ~ Janice


Category Description for COMPLETE ENGLISH PROGRAMS:

These materials offer complete coverage of both writing and grammar.


Primary Subject
English/Writing
Grade Start
3
Grade End
5
ISBN
9781600512186
Format
Paperback
Brand Name
Classical Academic Press
Weight
1.05 (lbs.)
Dimensions
11.0" x 8.5" x 0.5"
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Great program! Just used Book 1 last semester.
Samara O on Jan 18, 2021
bought for a class
Angie A on Aug 4, 2020
Great program! Just used Book 1 last semester.
Samara O on Jan 18, 2021
We just finished the first book (Fable) and loved it. Both my student and myself are excited to continue with this program. The teaching method includes lots of fun activities and important skills like narration and dictation.
Rebecca L on Oct 24, 2020
bought for a class
Angie A on Aug 4, 2020
We are just finishing up Book 1 and can't wait to start the next book. Book 1 gives a great introduction to many facets of ELA studies and we are looking forward to going into this level.
Emily H on May 5, 2020
Easy to use, yet thorough.
Mary M on Apr 28, 2020
I love the writing in this program! It's engaging, fun, and - best of all - informative. Our student had beautiful growth through Book 1 and we're looking forward to Book 2.
Michelle M on Mar 13, 2020
We are almost done with Book 1 and we have really enjoyed it. I like that it is a classical writing program with some Charlotte Mason ideas incorporated in.
Michelle M on Oct 10, 2019
Good variety in exercises. Covers copywork, dictation, vocabulary, amplification, summarization, and beginning of outlining.
Darcie D on Aug 1, 2018
we are using this book in our homeschool co-op
Tana P on Jul 27, 2018
for a co-op class
Traci P on Jul 13, 2018
Recommended by a friend for homeschooling
Elizabeth G on Jul 11, 2018
recommended by a friend for homeschooling
Tiffany S on Nov 6, 2017
We loved book 1, so we're sticking with what's working!
Esther on Dec 29, 2016
CoOp Tutor requires this for her class.
Andrew S on Sep 1, 2016
It is simple to follow for teacher and student. Classical method but Charlotte Mason friendly. Solid foundation.
jennifer d on Aug 24, 2016
required for Classical Education co-op
Christine D on Aug 22, 2016
Great book on writing. Systematic and manageable.
Jonathan H on Jul 18, 2016
Recommended by a friend.
Laura P on May 23, 2016
I used the first book and LOVED it!!
User on Feb 18, 2016
My two girls, one a reluctant writer and one who will ramble on for pages, both love this curriculum. It encourages my reluctant one by showing her how to write and helps my eager writer to write more clearly. We look forward to writing every day!
Sharon P on Feb 5, 2016
I really liked the first Fable book for my 8yo. He finds dictation and copywork arduous so I was looking for a curriculum with a bit more variety in the exercises. He loves to amplify and retell the stories.
Darcie D on Jan 2, 2016
We've used W&R Book 1 in the past (with a different child) and I just think this is the best route to go for writing curriculum for my 4th grader at this time.
Kara B on Nov 26, 2015
We just finished the first book (Fable) and loved it. Both my student and myself are excited to continue with this program. The teaching method includes lots of fun activities and important skills like narration and dictation.
Rebecca L on Oct 24, 2020
We are just finishing up Book 1 and can't wait to start the next book. Book 1 gives a great introduction to many facets of ELA studies and we are looking forward to going into this level.
Emily H on May 5, 2020
Is this religious?
A shopper on Oct 10, 2019
BEST ANSWER: This book uses classic literature, including proverbs and parables from the Bible. However, they are using it as a literature source not a religious document. The author and material is in no way religious.
i have a 3rd grader what book should i start with?
A shopper on Aug 10, 2018
BEST ANSWER: My third grader started with book one. It was a good intro to the series. We moved pretty quickly through it. She liked all of the fables. I started my son late in this series, 6th grade, because i didn't know about it sooner. We did bk 1, too. I think it is a fun and less intimidating way to start writing (from someone with a writer and a nonwriter!).
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Is this a secular curriculum?
I wish that publisher could be upfront about this.
We bought Book 1 and loved it, so we continued with Book 2, then we found out that there are more than two chapters talking about Jesus in Book 2 and citing the Bible as factual. So does Writing and Rhetoric intend to be secular or not?
September 22, 2020
Response from Rainbow Resource Center
Thank you for the review on this curriculum. The publisher states, "The Writing and Rhetoric does not advocate a religious perspective in any way, but on occasion content from different religions, historical, and literary traditions as from secular sources. For specific examples, please contact info@classicalsubjects.com." (2019 Charter School catalog pg. 31) We encourage familes/schools to contact them directly to receive the list of religious references used in the course. ~Deanne
September 24, 2020
Deanne
Rated 5 out of 5
Great program if you take your time
My son and I loved Book 1: Fable, so we happily continued into Book 2: Narrative I. When I cracked open the Teacher's Edition, I thought, "Interesting...there are only 10 lessons."

Now that we are nearing the end of Book 2, I think CAP was wise to limit the book to 10 lessons. Book 2 requires more "original" writing than Book 1: Fable, so my son needed more time to complete each lesson. I would throw the "Typical Teaching Week" out the window (and homeschool moms are generally pretty good at that) and use observation to guide how many days you allot for writing.

Changes from Book 1:
The reading passages (parables and myths) are longer with more advanced vocabulary and proper nouns. It's probably a good idea to read through the passage to determine pronunciations before doing the lesson. I tended to do no preparation with Book 1.
The "Go Deeper" sections are longer, with more questions and even a written component most lessons.
The "Writing Time" changes focus from substitutionary writing to more original writing. In Book 1, the student works on summarizing, expanding, and amplifying. For Book 2, they start with having the student identify the Beginning, Middle, and End of a story. The writing components then have the students amplify with extra description or dialogue, changing the point-of-view, or inserting a new section to the middle or end of the passage. Some lessons have 2 large writing components.

We are in the midst of Lesson 10, the final lesson. My son has been working on it for 2 weeks already. There are 3 stories to amplify, and well...it's just taking a while.

I started using some IEW material for my daughter (1st grade, Bible Heroes) and decided to apply the key-word-outline to this program. I sat with my son, talked through his ideas, helped him structure a KWO to structure the paragraphs, and instructed him to use the KWO to write his paragraphs. This really helped him keep track of his ideas, while also preventing some run on sentence problems.

I still love this program and we will continue using it to inspire imagination in writing. At the same time, I'm not sure that it is totally complete as a writing program. The word play is fantastic, yet the program has weaknesses since it does not teach how to structure writing or writing mechanics.

It would be wise to require some outlining, drafts, and then writing a final copy if you notice your student is taking a really long time completing their paragraphs. While it may seem like you are adding work, I think taking that extra time to help them develop their structure will save them time in the long run.

My son is a late-birthday 3rd grader. If I had to do the program again, I would space out the lessons and teach some structure and mechanics in-between lessons. The program is designed for "one semester". That might be possible for a 4th grader who really loves writing. Because W&R: Narrative I is not a complete Language Arts curriculum, I hesitate to say it is definitely a 1 semester program. I could easily see using this over an entire year, 1 lesson a month while inserting other writing assignments in between.
May 25, 2016
Purchased
over 5 years ago
Rated 5 out of 5
I have nearly finished going through book 1 with my 9 year old daughter and am getting ready to order book 2 We both love this program! Each lesson is completed over a period of about a week and covers all aspects of writing In book 1 Fable each lesson begins with a fable After reading the brief story the child narrates it back This is followed by comprehension vocabulary lessons rewriting a portion of the story by changing various words identifying parts of speech and learning to summarize or expand the story Sometimes the student is even asked to rewrite the story using different animals One of the strengths of this series is that the child is given good material to model and work with rather than having to construct their writing from a mere idea or from scratch On days when my daughter is not as much up to the task of writing I allow her to dictate her story to me while I write it on a separate piece of paper so that she can copy it into her book later In this way she can get her thoughts out without being encumbered by the tasks of handwriting and spelling We always end with her correcting her own spelling and punctuation after the story has been written down I really like that the lessons are laid out in the teacher's manual and are ready to go Many of the exercises can be completed independently or given orally to me if I am involved in something else The lessons dovetail well with our grammar lessons and teach much about the elements of a story as well The fables have strong moral content and often serve as a launch pad into discussion of good character and virtue Originally I was hoping to wing it without a teacher's edition but after receiving the student edition I realized that the teacher's edition contained not only specific answers and suggested responses but the dictation passages for the lessons as well In my opinion it is worth the cost to purchase both I believe that my 9 year old will be well beyond her where her siblings were as she moves on through middle and high school thanks to this program
February 27, 2015


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